--------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: 2129185483 Channel Name: Private Chat (alone) Listener: Myadra Session started: 2008.02.26 19:25:58 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2008.02.26 19:26:04 ] Myadra > Greetings [ 2008.02.26 19:26:06 ] Sworn Mistress > 0/ [ 2008.02.26 19:26:34 ] Myadra > Before we begin, I would like to speak of that incident in M-Y [ 2008.02.26 19:26:40 ] Sworn Mistress > ok [ 2008.02.26 19:28:25 ] Myadra > We have come to this area to Assist and help Venom Alliance, and been graciously invited to this area, under the understanding [ 2008.02.26 19:29:08 ] Myadra > That all standings and things that must have had to been sorted would be, such as mails from local corps they have set us +ve. dock rights, and local political and military info [ 2008.02.26 19:29:51 ] Sworn Mistress > well apparently venom diplo's failed to contact me and i will speak with them [ 2008.02.26 19:29:53 ] Myadra > I'm not sure how close your two alliances are, not even sure why you are two seperate entity's, but their seemed to have been a lack of communication & coordination [ 2008.02.26 19:30:40 ] Myadra > We are here to Assist the Venom leadership, first and foremost, to militarily secure the most important political, strategic and economic areas that are at risk. [ 2008.02.26 19:30:45 ] Sworn Mistress > yes and i am working on getting things starightened out with them as well [ 2008.02.26 19:31:14 ] Myadra > Firstly by reconnaissance , Intel and our information gathering of its enemys, and at the final end, securing the home front, we will help Venom defend its homeland from those who do not hold its interests dear. [ 2008.02.26 19:31:57 ] Myadra > A time of great decisions is approaching. In this grave period we need to cooperate. for the common good of Venom Alliance. with many turning its back & begining agressions on it [ 2008.02.26 19:32:05 ] Sworn Mistress > We have been friends with venom and are mostly made up of ex-venom corps [ 2008.02.26 19:32:38 ] Sworn Mistress > we are very close friends with venom and are moving mostly out of omist [ 2008.02.26 19:32:53 ] Myadra > Well to me, it makes no sense, being two entity's, but thats not my affairs, these incidents go to further point this out, the failures in being two entitys [ 2008.02.26 19:32:56 ] Sworn Mistress > but we will also still be around that area from time to time [ 2008.02.26 19:34:17 ] Myadra > When we move to a 0.0 area to assist a 1) corp 2) alliance, we ask all these details and info to be sorted the week before arrival, we put our members safety and well being at the same level of Venom Alliance. [ 2008.02.26 19:35:09 ] Myadra > We put a high value at the Importance of holding financial assets secure from risk, this means those who have acted against us in the past, we only conditionally give standings under strict terms and conditions. [ 2008.02.26 19:37:41 ] Sworn Mistress > And we are under strict orders to try to make standings with any and all of Venom friendlies. Goals in mind for that is so there can be a strong front to help Venom when time comes to it. [ 2008.02.26 19:39:27 ] Myadra > So far everything else with this campaign , and its achievements have been going as planned, so I am hoping we can come to a agreement to this end. that follows our strict policy [ 2008.02.26 19:41:51 ] Myadra > On 1) corp 2) alliance , Section 2b, If any such entity has ever done a unprovoked action upon our ships that carry our flag, to then normalize relations a escrow or deposit for no less than 30 days can be indicated to them. [ 2008.02.26 19:42:59 ] Myadra > Our terms, I could negotaite, to this end, as a show of good faith to your intentions in this area as well, I could set at no less than 300mil , by value and assesment of the tactical and economic situation [ 2008.02.26 19:43:36 ] Myadra > 30-Day escrow, standings change notice would need to be 96 horus, and no loss's in this peroid to our ships, to re-claim the deposit/escrow [ 2008.02.26 19:44:41 ] Sworn Mistress > We follow strict Goonfleet / TCF conduct. We follow strict coalition conduct, IF it's not blue shoot it. [ 2008.02.26 19:44:44 ] Myadra > standard interest rate of 3% while in our holdings, will be returned at the end of this peroid, or the end of our relationship, which ever comes first [ 2008.02.26 19:45:18 ] Sworn Mistress > Now I would like to see you try and charge Goons that [ 2008.02.26 19:45:22 ] Myadra > We do not follow the "coalitions" mandates or standings [ 2008.02.26 19:45:35 ] Sworn Mistress > And as it stands your corp has no standings with Goons [ 2008.02.26 19:45:54 ] Myadra > We are a sovereign sect, we follow our own guidelines and doctrines [ 2008.02.26 19:45:58 ] Sworn Mistress > Nor with TCF [ 2008.02.26 19:46:22 ] Myadra > and I am binded by it, our Doctrines, I am merely a servant of our sect [ 2008.02.26 19:47:08 ] Myadra > And our reputation to this end, speaks for itself, we have only put praise to those we have been friends or allied with [ 2008.02.26 19:48:39 ] Myadra > I am authorized and empowered to give this contract and treaty to your alliance, and sign this agreement , and set standings immidiatly upon your agreement [ 2008.02.26 19:50:30 ] Sworn Mistress > There will be no isk transfer, and you will follow venom's policy and set us blue [ 2008.02.26 19:51:50 ] Myadra > I do not follow demands, I have given you our terms and they are reasonable considering the situation, If your intentions and loyalty to Venom Alliance was strong you would understand, &follow strict guidelines that do not fall under TCF/Goons/ coal... [ 2008.02.26 19:52:32 ] Myadra > & Our strict guidelines do not fall under TCF/Goons/Coalition i meant [ 2008.02.26 19:52:50 ] Myadra > Thats why we always previal, and get our objectives completed... and our enemys destroyed [ 2008.02.26 19:54:11 ] Myadra > I am open to negotiating the amount, But not by much [ 2008.02.26 19:56:32 ] Sworn Mistress > If you expect Venom to stay in good graces with the rest of the coalition then you will set. It is your choice. [ 2008.02.26 19:57:41 ] Myadra > I do not care about the coalition, it will soon erode and fall in upon itself soon enough, We take each alliance and corperation, one by one. [ 2008.02.26 19:58:46 ] Myadra > If you need to "borrow" the funds from Venom Alliance, then I can await transfer, but I will not set standings untill this is sorted, our policy is clear [ 2008.02.26 20:00:08 ] Myadra > Next time, I hope both your allliances are more sorted, and better able to coordinate and communicate among each other.. its a pity [ 2008.02.26 20:02:00 ] Myadra > I am open to negotiation, but not debate, I'll give you a moment to go over it with your ceo [ 2008.02.26 20:04:31 ] Myadra > Another option to consider, is to stop taking a free ride on Venom Alliance and move your assets and ships more quickly out of area [ 2008.02.26 20:19:01 ] Myadra > Well ? [ 2008.02.26 20:31:47 ] Myadra > Your delay tactics and not responding do not impress me.. [ 2008.02.26 20:32:41 ] Sworn Mistress > I am speaking with the heads of the alliance [ 2008.02.26 20:33:08 ] Myadra > Ok very well, I'll be around for a little while longer. (30mins or so) [ 2008.02.26 20:37:51 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > hey soulara is saying there is some standings drama what's the deal [ 2008.02.26 20:37:59 ] Myadra > /emote looks unimpressed at the new comers entering room [ 2008.02.26 20:38:23 ] Soulara > standings with venom are blue m8 [ 2008.02.26 20:38:30 ] Myadra > I made it very clear, perhaps there is misunderstanding? [ 2008.02.26 20:38:48 ] Myadra > Perhaps you two should be provided a comm's log of this meeting [ 2008.02.26 20:38:57 ] Sworn Mistress > oh they have [ 2008.02.26 20:38:58 ] Soulara > an this is there pets that seem to be running security an want to distort 3oo mil for standings [ 2008.02.26 20:39:00 ] Sworn Mistress > [19:57:41] Myadra > I do not care about the coalition , it will soon erode and fall in upon itself soon enough, We take each alliance and corperation, one by one. [ 2008.02.26 20:39:04 ] Soulara > witch i will not pay [ 2008.02.26 20:39:13 ] Myadra > Who is speaking and reprisenting your alliance here? [ 2008.02.26 20:39:16 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > why isn't VENOM in here who is this guy [ 2008.02.26 20:39:25 ] Sworn Mistress > no venom diplo is online [ 2008.02.26 20:39:45 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > oh well then we will just wait then, tell me when you find one [ 2008.02.26 20:39:48 ] Soulara > if they are in coalition space they should comply with standing nap nin effect [ 2008.02.26 20:39:55 ] Myadra > Sworn you gave me the impression via eve-mail coorispondance you had the authority and role to negotiate this [ 2008.02.26 20:40:13 ] Myadra > Where you misleading me ? [ 2008.02.26 20:40:14 ] Sworn Mistress > I never said that and u made ur own assumptions [ 2008.02.26 20:40:44 ] Myadra > I was here to negotiate the standings with your alliance, you said you where able to [ 2008.02.26 20:41:29 ] Myadra > Please state who each of you are, and your role and title please [ 2008.02.26 20:41:30 ] Soulara > venom is blue with anthrax death if you in venom space you should set as well [ 2008.02.26 20:41:42 ] Myadra > Soulara, we have not been introduced... [ 2008.02.26 20:41:49 ] Soulara > i am the head of anthrax death [ 2008.02.26 20:42:08 ] Soulara > former venom diplomat [ 2008.02.26 20:42:28 ] Myadra > when you say head of anthrax death you mean the Alliance as a entity? [ 2008.02.26 20:42:48 ] Soulara > yes as awhole [ 2008.02.26 20:42:51 ] Myadra > Who is this mr Qu'lah ? [ 2008.02.26 20:43:28 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > as long as VENOM isn't here there's nothing we can do really who is their contact [ 2008.02.26 20:43:37 ] Sworn Mistress > theBEANman [ 2008.02.26 20:43:58 ] Soulara > copy i hav etried to call bean s cell [ 2008.02.26 20:44:02 ] Myadra > This is terms for our standings, they do not change, someone must meet them [ 2008.02.26 20:44:06 ] Soulara > he unavaliable [ 2008.02.26 20:44:17 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > Myadra you live in D2E with VENOM? [ 2008.02.26 20:44:32 ] Myadra > I live in Delve [ 2008.02.26 20:44:50 ] Myadra > My homeland is of no concern [ 2008.02.26 20:45:15 ] Myadra > Who are you, Qu'lah ? [ 2008.02.26 20:45:32 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > if you are docking in D2E then you need to use our standings, if not then I don't care [ 2008.02.26 20:46:15 ] Soulara > sorry i will not pay for standings [ 2008.02.26 20:46:38 ] Myadra > I do not know who you speak for Qu'lah, but I do not know of you or who you speak for [ 2008.02.26 20:47:19 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > you're not a decisionmaker and I don't really care, I'll resolve this on VENOM's end, I'm just giving you the chance to do it yourself first [ 2008.02.26 20:47:32 ] Myadra > Soulara, I said the terms are open to negotiation , you do not pay for them, they are held in bonds, in escrow, till 30-days is over or our relationship ends, with 96 hour notice with no loss's [ 2008.02.26 20:48:18 ] Soulara > i will not pay man of my word [ 2008.02.26 20:48:24 ] Myadra > Mr Qu'lah, we've not been agressed by your alliance in the past, if we get a mail from your alliance saying we are +ve we will do same. [ 2008.02.26 20:48:43 ] Myadra > as long as there is a 24 hour agreement of standings change. [ 2008.02.26 20:49:00 ] Myadra > Its quite different to those who have provoked or attacked us.. its policy [ 2008.02.26 20:49:04 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > I have no desire or need to set standings to you I'm just trying to establish whether you live with VENOM or not [ 2008.02.26 20:49:34 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > if you do then standings will be set mutually to all parties, if you don't then there's no reason for anybody to care and we can all shoot each other [ 2008.02.26 20:49:37 ] Sworn Mistress > Yes they do live with VENOM and It has been established and stated to me BY a VENOM member [ 2008.02.26 20:49:58 ] Myadra > We're invited here, and welcomed as friends, this is Venom space. [ 2008.02.26 20:50:01 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > ok, then they'll follow our standings or we'll have VENOM remove their access that's fine [ 2008.02.26 20:50:50 ] Myadra > Qu'lah, this is not your affair, and stop speaking as if you hold authority over these other alliances, your starting to sound like Band of Brothers alliance [ 2008.02.26 20:51:18 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > you don't seem to understand how this works so I'll explain it ONCE for your benefit [ 2008.02.26 20:51:34 ] Myadra > Yes, Enlighten me *smile* [ 2008.02.26 20:51:37 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > I gave VENOM that station on the condition that they and any people they let use it follow my standings [ 2008.02.26 20:51:51 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > that's all there is to it [ 2008.02.26 20:52:37 ] Myadra > They are, and they do follow your standings, this can just been resolved by coming to a middle ground now, some form of security for us [ 2008.02.26 20:52:50 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > nope, that's not how it works [ 2008.02.26 20:52:54 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > you don't get a say in this [ 2008.02.26 20:53:17 ] Myadra > I do get a say, And if our terms are not met , We'll just leave [ 2008.02.26 20:53:32 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > that's exactly what you'll be doing [ 2008.02.26 20:53:45 ] Myadra > This is up to the Venom Alliance XO, i would be willing for him to make good [ 2008.02.26 20:53:59 ] Myadra > on the terms himself, to secure the standings [ 2008.02.26 20:54:05 ] Soulara > i am already blue to venom [ 2008.02.26 20:54:17 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > venom understand the arrangement is for them and everyone they live with to unconditionally follow my standings [ 2008.02.26 20:54:34 ] Myadra > Its in our doctrines, I must follow, to ask for these terms [ 2008.02.26 20:54:52 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > you still seem to be under the impression that you get to have a say in this [ 2008.02.26 20:55:21 ] Myadra > I do get a say, stop trying to impose your will over these weaker alliances [ 2008.02.26 20:55:41 ] Myadra > I am open to standings, I just need some sort of security after their agression [ 2008.02.26 20:55:44 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > ok I'll just do what your 28 man corp says [ 2008.02.26 20:55:52 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > oh wait no I won't [ 2008.02.26 20:55:53 ] Myadra > Very good [ 2008.02.26 20:56:36 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > regardless if VENOM want you there badly enough they will make sure standings are set, if not then you can find somewhere else to go either way it doesn't concern me [ 2008.02.26 20:56:42 ] Myadra > Well you all seem to have this figured out, I'll take this matter to Venom Alliance, hopefully they can see our position and reasoning [ 2008.02.26 20:57:09 ] Myadra > Exacly, not even sure why you are here, Mr Qu'lah, but it was nice meeting you [ 2008.02.26 20:57:25 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > it's my sphere of influence, I decide who shoots whom [ 2008.02.26 20:57:29 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > period [ 2008.02.26 20:57:43 ] Myadra > If you say so, But i just follow our guidelines and doctrines [ 2008.02.26 20:58:35 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > tell me when you get ahold of VENOM soulara [ 2008.02.26 20:58:48 ] Soulara > copy [ 2008.02.26 20:58:50 ] Myadra > Right now i cannot set standings, but get back to me if you reconsider [ 2008.02.26 20:59:05 ] Myadra > In the meantime I'll be in contact with Venom Alliance directly [ 2008.02.26 20:59:35 ] Soulara > i will never pay you a dime [ 2008.02.26 21:00:13 ] Myadra > If you have no liquid funds, some sort of other terms can be negotiated. [ 2008.02.26 21:00:27 ] Soulara > fly safe you'll need it [ 2008.02.26 21:00:33 ] Myadra > Take care